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Message par arizal_adl le Jeu Mai 27, 2010 11:54 am

Schumacat a écrit:I remember he had a nice fight with Alonso at this track in 2006 after starting 2nd on the grid. He was heavier than Massa who was on pole but lost out during the race. But did you check his time in Q2? He was more than 1 sec faster than anyone else. I remember he did some amazing times in Q2 that year, especially in Hungary where he was added 5 seconds after Q2 and nearly qualified for Q3 by just 0.6 sec Shocked .

is there anything about schumi that you dont remember?? Smile
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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par Schumacat le Jeu Mai 27, 2010 1:21 pm

arizal_adl a écrit:is there anything about schumi that you dont remember?? Smile

I'm sure there is a lot about him that i don't remember coz he had such a long career Laughing . But yeah, I try remember each of his fantastic drives. His performances in Q2 in 2006 at many races were remarkable Very Happy .

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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par Schumacat le Jeu Mai 27, 2010 4:01 pm

Now Kubica also agrees the rules are confusing :
"I was looking to overtake," he said. "The team was not telling me, it's my job to read the regulations.

"If the safety car is coming in, for me the race is restarting. For me, the track was not clear, but the message was quite simple."
"I read the regulations before the start of the season," Kubica said. "I re-read the regulations after China just to make sure, because Lewis [Hamilton] overtook one of the Red Bulls at the last corner, that I understood it well and from my understanding I knew what I had to do in Monaco on the last lap, because the safety car came in with the lights off.

"But I think there can be two or three different interpretations so it's quite confusing rules.
Safety Car rules confusing - Kubica

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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par Schumacat le Jeu Mai 27, 2010 4:07 pm

Also, for those who thought Schumi acted on his own when he overtook Alonso, check Monaco's race edit on Formula1.com. Ross Brawn clearly tells him that he can overtake there. I hope this puts an end to the cheater calls now.

http://www.formula1.com/video/race_edits.html

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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par Schuy1 le Ven Mai 28, 2010 4:03 am

WELL DONE Schuma!

.... it won't effect the opinions of some "cats" around here though !! Wink

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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par PURIST le Ven Mai 28, 2010 5:13 am

Of course, you won't change them. :pirat:

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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par PURIST le Ven Mai 28, 2010 7:59 am

ALONSO AND SCHUMACHER DISAGREE

By Ian Parkes, Press Association Sport, Istanbul

Michael Schumacher and Fernando Alonso have finally found common ground in Turkey, but not over what occurred between them in Monaco.

The bitter rivals defiantly remain at odds over the incident at the final corner of the last lap which culminated in Schumacher being demoted from sixth to 12th and out of the points.

Schumacher was handed a 20-second time penalty by stewards after passing Alonso at the final corner in Monte Carlo after the safety car had peeled into the pits following an accident involving Lotus' Jarno Trulli and Karun Chandhok of Hispania Racing.

The manoeuvre was made after the first safety car line, as the FIA rules allow, whilst there also were green lights and flags on view indicating racing could resume.

However, a discrepancy in the rules that are under review by the FIA, also states if a race finishes under safety car conditions, the field shall hold position across the finishing line.

"The rules were slightly different to our interpretation and points were taken away, so it is a straightforward thing," said seven-times world champion Schumacher.

Asked if he had no doubt at the time he was going to attempt a move on Alonso, the 41-year-old Mercedes driver replied: "Sure, yes.

"I was obviously told by the team (to pass). I checked everything I could and to be prepared for that particular manoeuvre, so yes."

Mercedes initially announced they would appeal, only to withdraw a few days later, much to Alonso's delight as it ensured he retained his sixth place, remaining three points behind championship leaders Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel.

Questioned as to whether Schumacher's penalty was the right one, the double world champion succinctly said "yes".

Pressed for an explanation why, Alonso replied: "Because it's in the rules.

"For example the rules state a car and driver must weigh 620 kilos. If you are 600 then you get a penalty.

"So for me it's clear. It's written in the rules. When the safety car is on the last lap it's not possible to overtake."

The one thing they can agree on, however, is the fact Red Bull are, in Schumacher's words, "in their own world".

He added: "It is not just the car because the drivers are also delivering and doing a good job on top."

Like Schumacher, Alonso also knows he and Ferrari face a tough ask if they are to halt the Red Bull juggernaut at this weekend's race in Turkey.

"It's a feeling we all have, that they are clearly ahead and much quicker than everybody, and here I don't think the picture will change too much," said the 28-year-old Spaniard.

"I think it will be like in Barcelona (for the Spanish Grand Prix) where I will be fighting with McLaren and Mercedes.

"Hopefully we can catch them as soon as possible, either in Canada, Valencia or the next race.

"But from Barcelona to here we've only had three weeks, and in such a short period of time it's impossible to close the gap."

This kind of disagreement was pretty much expected.

They at least agree that RBR are clearly ahead of the others. I hope Mercedes, Ferrari, and McLaren close the gap to RBR significantly in Turkey.

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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par PURIST le Sam Mai 29, 2010 5:46 am

MS looked quick in FP1, but beaten by Nico in FP2. The car seems to be able to fight for podium with a bit of luck.

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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par Schuy1 le Sam Mai 29, 2010 6:35 am

PURIST a écrit:MS looked quick in FP1, but beaten by Nico in FP2. The car seems to be able to fight for podium with a bit of luck.

MS was beaten by Nico in FP2 ..... by a whole 0.06 seconds!

I reckon it will be in MS favour when the REAL stuff happens during qualifying today! bounce


Interesting interview above ..... one would hardly expect Alonso to say anything different!

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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par PURIST le Sam Mai 29, 2010 7:45 am

Yes, that's pretty expected, isn't it?

I also think MS might beat Nico in qualy and race this time. Looks like MS has really improved and seems to be getting close to his best. This weekend will be interesting!

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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par PURIST le Sam Mai 29, 2010 7:54 am

BTW, Brawn said this in an interview.

Brawn working to find rule solution

"But I think the penalty we received was something that could have been looked at. Because of an ambiguity it destroyed Michael's race.

"So the penalty system needs looking at in those circumstances because it was unfair. We're now in discussions with the FIA to try and find a better system."

I absolutely agree with him. In cases where the rules were ambiguous, I think imposing penalty could be too harsh. In MS's case in Monaco, I think FIA could have just given FA and MS their positions before the overtaking back without 20 sec penalty to MS. That would've been more fair IMHO.

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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par PURIST le Sam Mai 29, 2010 7:56 am

I also find it quite funny that if you look for MS's photos on the internet, most of them are still in Ferrari uniforms.

There is something 'magical' about that those days, I guess. Laughing

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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par Schuy1 le Sam Mai 29, 2010 2:19 pm

Schumi's qualified 5th with Nico 6th in Turkey!

Alonso only 12th!

...... now for the race - hope Schumi gets his revenge for the Monaco fiasco!

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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par cobra le Sam Mai 29, 2010 2:43 pm

the reason schumi was not further up than 5th (which is good) was that on the lap he went off, that very fast turn 8, he tried to go full revs right round, but the car wouldnt allow it, but this shows to me this was a gutsy all out lap to cut 100ths off his 5th placed time, which it would have, and put him further up the grid, thats the schumacher i know, always taking the car to the limit.
i feel after watching practice the other day that the red bull cars are going to struggle 60 laps of turkey with their reliability, lets hope so eh.

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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par Schuy1 le Sam Mai 29, 2010 3:53 pm



When MS spun off towards the end of qualifying - I reckon Schumi was trying to shave another tenth plus off his time which would have put him into P3 behind Hamilton!

- he's going for it !! - that's our Schumi Very Happy

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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par freddie le Sam Mai 29, 2010 4:31 pm

Our pace is looking good! Hopefully it carries on in tomorrow's race. Michael has been doing great race starts throughout the whole season, always gaining places during the starts. Hopefully he can do it again tomorrow. A podium finish is looking like a good posibility for Michael Smile

whatever happened to alonso?

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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par freddie le Sam Mai 29, 2010 4:36 pm

PURIST a écrit:I also find it quite funny that if you look for MS's photos on the internet, most of them are still in Ferrari uniforms.

There is something 'magical' about that those days, I guess. Laughing

Yes, I cherish those days. Ferrari and Michael were untouchable. Even if they were not winning races, they were always a threat with a good driver in Michael, a good car from Ferrari and a good strategist in Brawn.

Maybe if we have refuelling this year it gives the team more flexibility with strategy and Michael could have gotten a podium already Cool

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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par freddie le Dim Mai 30, 2010 4:04 pm

Another strong drive for Michael finishing in 4th! Though, Vettel did help Michael get another place, but that's racing! I'm just worried about the car's top speed. Hopefully they can sort it out before Canada. At least in the end, Michael seems to be able to lap as fast as Webber.

MIchael started well again, gaining a place but unfortunately, losing it on the straight to Button

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Message par PURIST le Dim Mai 30, 2010 4:45 pm

The most important thing is that he is performing. Outside circumstances that he can't control, well, I guess nothing he can do about them.

Solid weekend for him - it's two straight weeks now that he's beaten NR. Maybe things are really getting back slowly now for him!

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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par freddie le Dim Mai 30, 2010 5:09 pm

Fastest lap for the race. Michael 2nd for the top runners Very Happy

Pos. Drivers Teams Lap Time Gap
01. Vitaly Petrov Renault 57 1:29.165
02. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 54 1:29.195 +0.030
03. Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso Ferrari 50 1:29.535 +0.370
04. Robert Kubica Renault 57 1:29.580 +0.415
05. Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso Ferrari 57 1:29.588 +0.423
06. Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 53 1:29.810 +0.645
07. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 42 1:29.895 +0.730
08. Adrian Sutil Force India Mercedes 55 1:29.959 +0.794
09. Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 52 1:29.977 +0.812
10. Felipe Massa Ferrari 58 1:29.996 +0.831
11. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 56 1:30.011 +0.846
12. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 54 1:30.075 +0.910
13. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 37 1:30.181 +1.016
14. Pedro de la Rosa Sauber Ferrari 50 1:30.421 +1.256
15. Nico Hulkenberg Williams Cosworth 51 1:30.620 +1.455
16. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber Ferrari 42 1:30.891 +1.726
17. Rubens Barrichello Williams Cosworth 53 1:30.933 +1.768
18. Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India Mercedes 53 1:31.421 +2.256
19. Timo Glock Virgin Cosworth 48 1:32.265 +3.100
20. Lucas di Grassi Virgin Cosworth 55 1:33.257 +4.092
21. Bruno Senna HRT F1 Cosworth 35 1:34.247 +5.082
22. Heikki Kovalainen Lotus Cosworth 26 1:34.363 +5.198
23. Jarno Trulli Lotus Cosworth 26 1:34.463 +5.298
24. Karun Chandhok HRT F1 Cosworth 37 1:34.585 +5.420

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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par Schumacat le Lun Mai 31, 2010 6:08 am

I think Mercedes race pace isn't as good as the others. Schumi couldn't fight with the Redbulls and Mclarens at all and was behind by around 35 seconds by the end of the race. I hope Mercedes catches up with the guys at the front. It was a solid drive by Schumi though.

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Message par PURIST le Lun Mai 31, 2010 6:15 am

I agree. That Mercedes is still lacking race pace. If RBR stayed trouble free, i would've been aound 60 second gap instead of 35(Macca had to slow down to conserve fuel towards the end).

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Message par PURIST le Lun Mai 31, 2010 6:18 am

BTW, do you guys think Schumi now has the measure of Nico? Maybe the old Schumi is finally coming back. He seems much better than at the start of the season to me.

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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par Schumacat le Lun Mai 31, 2010 6:47 am

Yeah, Schumi is much better than the beginning of the season, but he is still not close to his best. The old Schumi would have driven more than the car's limit. The schumi that we see now is probably taking the car to its limit, nothing more, nothing less.

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Re: [F1] Michael Schumacher Fan Club.

Message par Rus-Evo le Lun Mai 31, 2010 7:40 am

4th or so in the current Merc is about par for the course......good for Schumi.
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