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2014 Betting GAME

Post by Schuy1 on Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:10 am

OK - Here we go again, I'm game to "organize it again"  ......

The 2014 season is not far away.

With the new formula changes, e.g. the 1.6 litre V6 Turbo engines, the new ERS and the 100 litres (Kg) maximum of fuel allowance (to name a few) things should be, well, "interesting":


To make things even more interesting from our side, before the 2014 Season starts, we will also have a new betting formula!

This time we'll have TWO "Pre-Bets" (... sort of "double points" so to speak  Very Happy of $20,000 (in total) on the likely winners of:

  • The 2014 WDC @ $10,000 and
  • The 2014 WCC Team @ for another bet of $10,000


Bets MUST be done BEFORE qualifying at the Oz F1 GP on the 15th March 2014 with the results added (for net wins and deducted for net losses) to our final scores at the end of the 2014 season .... that is,  if I remember!:

Odds for the Formula 1 Drivers Championship 2014
L Hamilton 3.50
S Vettel  3.75
F Alonso 7.00
N Rosberg 8.00
J Button 9.00
K Raikkonen 11.00
K Magnussen 12.00
D Ricciardo 31.00
F Massa 67.00
N Hulkenberg 67.00
R Grosjean 67.00
V Bottas 67.00
P Maldonado 126.00
S Perez 151.00
A Sutil  201.00
E Gutierrez 226.00
D Kvyat 501.00
J-E Vergne 501.00
K Kobayashi 501.00
M Ericsson 501.00
M Chilton 501.00
J Bianchi 501.00

Odds for the Formula 1 Constructors Championship 2014 (Team)
Mercedes 2.10
Red Bull 3.50
Ferrari 4.50
Mclaren 7.00
Williams 41.00
Lotus 67.00
Force India 101.00
Sauber 501.00
Caterham 501.00[b]
Toro Rosso [b]501.00

Marussia 501.00


Rules as follows:
1, We take turns posting the odds from betting organisations:say, winner of previous round does the honours - Yeah, that happened a lot in 2013 too - hence the Rule # 6 amendment Razz.
2, You must bet $10,000 each race
3, You must repay your $10,000 at the end of each race, including both the WDC & the WCC bets (tough huh?)
4, You may make up to three bets with the $10,000
5, You can make a default bet in case you cant make it or forget
6, You must use the same odds as are posted. Note: If no current race odds posted, we will use the same odds from the previous race!
7, You must beat last year's winner Purist .... and Monstar and Rus by seasons end  :?  Suspect
8, You must calculate your winnings and loosings so that a leader board can be drawn up -
9, Finally, You must have fun  cheers

Fine print RULES:
Motor Racing Formula 1
173. All race bets are settled on the official FIA classification at the time of the podium presentation, with subsequent disqualifications disregarded.
174. All drivers who complete 90% of the race laps are deemed as classified finishers in line with the official FIA classification. However all drivers are given a ranking, and for the purpose of match and positional betting this ranking shall apply.
175. Any driver who attempts to qualify for the race proper and fails to do so shall be deemed to have taken part, and finished last of the drivers taking part. If two or more drivers fail to qualify, their qualifying lap times will determine their placing in the race result.
176. The start of the race is deemed to be the signal to start the warm up lap. All drivers are in play from this point on.
177. For race match betting the driver who finishes in the highest position is deemed the winner. In the event of both drivers failing to complete the race, match bets will be settled on the official Formula 1 result. Bets stand once drivers partake in qualifying.
178. Bets on the Formula One Championship and Constructors Championship will be settled in line with the official FIA results immediately following the podium presentation of the final race of the season, with subsequent disqualifications disregarded. The drivers’ and constructors’ championship titles are awarded to the driver and constructor who score the most points over the course of the season. In the case of a dead heat for a championship place then the driver or constructor with the higher number of superior race results will be awarded the place.
179. Qualifying consists of three sessions whereby the six slowest drivers from each of the first two sessions will drop out leaving the remaining drivers to compete in the third session for the top places on the grid. Qualifying betting will be settled as the fastest lap posted during this third qualifying session. With respect to all bets on qualifying, either outright or match betting, the official times as recorded by the FIA will apply for the settlement of bets. Any subsequent penalties or demotions imposed shall be disregarded.
180. From the formation of any race market, bets are considered to be non-driver no bet. Any bets on drivers who fail to take part in the race for any reason other than non-qualification shall be deemed void. We reserve the right to deduct the equivalent Tattersalls’ Rule 4 (c) to reflect returning stakes on non-drivers.
181. First driver to retire is a bet on which driver will be the first to retire from the race. The bet begins with the signal to start the warm up lap. Bet settlement will be determined by which lap number a car retires on. Should more than one car retire on the same lap then Dead-Heat rules apply.
182. First Car to retire. Bets are in play once the parade lap starts. Bet settlement will be determined by which lap number a car retires on. Should more than one car retire on the same lap then Dead-Heat rules apply.
183. One lap wonders is a bet on how many drivers will retire from the race before they complete one lap proper of the race (not the warm up lap). The bet begins with the signal to start the warm up lap.
184. For all A1 Grand Prix markets, both for the feature race and the sprint race, all bets are settled on the official A1 Grand Prix classification at the time of the podium presentation for the respective race, with subsequent disqualifications disregarded.
185. Leader after the first lap. For settlement purposes the winner is deemed to be the driver leading the race as they cross the start/finish line after one classified race lap (warm-up lap not included). In the event of one lap not being fully completed all bets will be void. If the race starts under the safety car all bets will be void.
186. Will there be a safety car period during the race? A Safety Car Period is defined as the need for the Safety Car to run in front of the leading car during a specified race. Should the race start under the Safety Car, then all bets concerning the Safety Car market will be settled as Yes. If the race finishes under safety car conditions but the safety car has not had time to get to the front of the leading car this market will be settled as Yes.


Last edited by Schuy1 on Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:39 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Typos)

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Re: 2014 Betting GAME

Post by Schumacat on Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:46 pm

Schuy1 wrote:7, You must beat last year's winner Purist .... and Monstar and Rus by seasons end    

Beating Monstar and Rus is easy Razz.

My default bets were enough to beat them  Laughing .

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Re: 2014 Betting GAME

Post by Schuy1 on Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:16 am

Yes Schuma .... Vettel did VERY well for both you and Sail in 2013!  👅  Wink 

Below is a suggested Format for our coming 2014 Season's betting.

To make it as simple as possible to calculate the ongoing year's results, I request players to post their bets in the following format PLEASE:


For EACH GP event we should "copy & paste" our selected "Default", WDC and WCC selections as per the example below:


 
Australian GP:
5000$ on Vettel for Race win at 3.60
5000$ on Rosberg for Podium finish at 5.50


Default Bet:
10000$ on Vettel win

WDC: F Alonso 7.00 @ $10,000
WCC: Ferrari 4.50 @ $10,000


This way, at the end of the season, I should also be able to remember to easily update results from our WDC & WCC bets ..... unless someone has a better idea?   Idea  :?

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Re: 2014 Betting GAME

Post by Schuy1 on Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:09 pm

Hope to put Oz betting odds on next 24 hours ......  bois3

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Re: 2014 Betting GAME

Post by Schuy1 on Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:51 pm

OK.... the first for 2014 - Good Luck punters!

F1 Australian Grand Prix

Outright Betting
L Hamilton 3.20 N Rosberg 4.50 F Alonso 9.00
F Massa 10.00 J Button 11.00 K Raikkonen 13.00
V Bottas 15.00 S Vettel 19.00 K Magnussen 19.00
N Hulkenberg 34.00 S Perez 34.00 D Ricciardo 51.00
R Grosjean 81.00 P Maldonado 101.00 A Sutil 326.00
E Gutierrez 326.00 J-E Vergne 501.00 J Bianchi 501.00
D Kvyat 501.00 M Ericsson 501.00 K Kobayashi 501.00
M Chilton 501.00

Overall Qualification Winner
L Hamilton 2.37 N Rosberg 3.50 F Massa 10.00
V Bottas 13.00 K Magnussen 17.00 S Vettel 17.00
J Button 19.00 F Alonso 23.00 K Raikkonen 26.00
D Ricciardo 34.00 N Hulkenberg 34.00 S Perez 34.00
R Grosjean 67.00 P Maldonado 67.00 A Sutil 401.00
E Gutierrez 401.00 J Bianchi 501.00 M Ericsson 501.00
K Kobayashi 501.00 M Chilton 501.00 D Kvyat 501.00
J-E Vergne 501.00

Podium Finish
L Hamilton 1.57 N Rosberg 1.91 F Alonso 2.88
F Massa 3.40 J Button 3.50 K Raikkonen 4.00
V Bottas 4.00 K Magnussen 4.50 S Vettel 6.00
N Hulkenberg 6.50 S Perez 8.00 D Ricciardo 15.00
R Grosjean 26.00 P Maldonado 34.00 E Gutierrez 41.00
A Sutil 41.00 J-E Vergne 81.00 D Kvyat 81.00
K Kobayashi 201.00 J Bianchi 201.00 M Chilton 201.00
M Ericsson 201.00

Top 6 Finish
L Hamilton 1.40 N Rosberg 1.45 F Alonso 1.50
F Massa 1.53 K Raikkonen 1.57 J Button 1.62
V Bottas 1.67 K Magnussen 2.10 S Vettel 2.63
N Hulkenberg 2.75 S Perez 3.00 D Ricciardo 4.33
R Grosjean 11.00 E Gutierrez 12.00 A Sutil 12.00
P Maldonado 15.00 D Kvyat 21.00 J-E Vergne 21.00
K Kobayashi 26.00 J Bianchi 26.00 M Chilton 51.00
M Ericsson 51.00

Points Finish
F Alonso 1.20 N Rosberg 1.25 L Hamilton 1.25
J Button 1.28 F Massa 1.28 V Bottas 1.30
K Raikkonen 1.30 N Hulkenberg 1.45 K Magnussen 1.45
S Perez 1.53 S Vettel 1.62 D Ricciardo 1.91
R Grosjean 2.75 A Sutil 2.88 E Gutierrez 2.88
P Maldonado 3.50 J-E Vergne 3.75 D Kvyat 5.00
J Bianchi 6.50 M Chilton 7.00 K Kobayashi 8.00
M Ericsson 10.00

Fastest Lap
L Hamilton 4.50 N Rosberg 5.00 F Alonso 9.00
F Massa 9.00 V Bottas 11.00 J Button 13.00
S Vettel 13.00 K Raikkonen 15.00 N Hulkenberg 17.00
K Magnussen 19.00 D Ricciardo 21.00 S Perez 21.00
R Grosjean 34.00 P Maldonado 41.00 A Sutil 41.00
E Gutierrez 41.00 J-E Vergne 51.00 D Kvyat 51.00
M Ericsson 176.00 K Kobayashi 176.00 J Bianchi 176.00
M Chilton 176.00

Top Scoring Constructor
Mercedes 2.03 Ferrari 5.20 Williams 5.60
Mclaren 7.80 Red Bull 12.75 Force India 16.00
Lotus 52.00 Sauber 82.00 Toro Rosso 291.00
Marussia 501.00 Caterham 501.00

Team of Winning Driver
Mercedes 2.03 Ferrari 5.20 Williams 5.60
Mclaren 7.10 Force India 13.50 Red Bull 16.00
Lotus 45.00 Sauber 181.00 Toro Rosso 351.00
Caterham 501.00 Marussia 501.00

Double Points Finish
Ferrari 1.50 Mercedes 1.50 Williams 1.54
Mclaren 1.76 Force India 2.11 Red Bull 2.77
Sauber 7.40 Lotus 7.40 Toro Rosso 8.10
Caterham 21.00 Marussia 27.00

Fastest in Practice 1
L Hamilton 3.75 N Rosberg 5.50 F Massa 8.00
F Alonso 8.50 V Bottas 10.00 S Vettel 11.00
J Button 13.00 K Raikkonen 13.00 K Magnussen 19.00
N Hulkenberg 21.00 D Ricciardo 21.00 S Perez 21.00
R Grosjean 41.00 E Gutierrez 51.00 P Maldonado 51.00
A Sutil 51.00 D Kvyat 67.00 J-E Vergne 67.00
K Kobayashi 101.00 J Bianchi 101.00 M Ericsson 101.00
M Chilton 101.00

Safety Car
Yes 1.30 No 3.16

Winning Margin
Under 10.5 Seconds 1.72 Over 10.5 Seconds 1.91

Hat Trick (Pole; Win & FL)
L Hamilton 10.20 N Rosberg 21.00 F Massa 35.00
F Alonso 52.00 J Button 52.00 V Bottas 52.00
K Raikkonen 52.00 K Magnussen 70.00 S Vettel 70.00
D Ricciardo 151.00

Qualifying Winning Car
Mercedes 1.46 Williams 6.35 Mclaren 10.20
Red Bull 13.50 Ferrari 17.25 Force India 21.00
Lotus 52.00 Sauber 241.00 Toro Rosso 351.00
Caterham 501.00 Marussia 501.00

Double Podium Finish
Mercedes 2.64 Ferrari 7.40 Williams 7.40
Mclaren 13.50 Force India 27.00 Red Bull 27.00
Lotus 151.00 Marussia 501.00 Caterham 501.00
Toro Rosso 501.00 Sauber 501.00

Winning Nationality
British 2.64 German 3.50 Finnish 6.75
Spanish 9.20 Brazilian 10.20 Danish 19.75
Mexican 27.00 French 70.00 Australian 70.00
Venezuelan 121.00 Japanese 501.00 Swedish 501.00
Russian 501.00

Fastest Qualifier/Race Winner Double
L Hamilton 5.00 N Rosberg 8.00 F Massa 17.00
V Bottas 26.00 S Vettel 26.00 F Alonso 26.00
J Button 26.00 K Raikkonen 31.00 K Magnussen 31.00

Don't forget: Default, WDC & WCC bets and style your bets as per example below please:

Australian GP:
$5,000 on Vettel for Race win at 3.60
$5,000 on Rosberg for Podium finish at 5.50


Default Bet:
$10,000 on Vettel win
WDC: F Alonso 7.00 @ $10,000
WCC: Ferrari 4.50 @ $10,000

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Re: 2014 Betting GAME

Post by Schumacat on Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:32 pm

WDC : Massa $10000 @ 67.00
WCC : Williams $10000 @41.00


Default Bet:
$5000 on win for Lewis
$5000 on podium for Massa


Australian GP:
$5000 on Lewis for Race win @3.20
$5000 on Massa for Quali win @10.00

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Re: 2014 Betting GAME

Post by Redbaron on Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:48 pm

Podium Finish
$2000 S Vettel @6.00
$2000 N Hulkenberg @6.50

Fastest Qualifier/Race Winner Double
$6000 L Hamilton @5.00

Default Bet
$5000 L Hamilton for Race win
$5000 Rosberg for Pole

WDC: Alonso @7.00 $10000
WCC: Ferrari @4.50 $10000
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Re: 2014 Betting GAME

Post by Mika-Juan-Kimi on Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:50 am

Would love to play this if I understood any of these gambling terms and "odds"
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Re: 2014 Betting GAME

Post by Sailqueen on Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:26 pm

Woot!  PopCorn 
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Re: 2014 Betting GAME

Post by Schumacat on Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:41 pm

Mika-Juan-Kimi wrote:Would love to play this if I understood any of these gambling terms and "odds"

I didn't understand anything about odds either. When this game first started in the Games Forum of F1-Live, I thought that people were playing with real money  Embarassed .

It is quite simple actually. The Odds are number of times your investment would be multiplied by, if you won. The rules are simple : You can put a maximum of 3 bets upto a total of $10,000 for every race. At the end of the race, you have to subtract that 10K from your balance, regardless of whether you won or lost.

So here is an example:
If I decide to put all my 10K on Vettel's podium finish (The odds will be posted by someone from a betting site, so we will have to use the odds that are posted for that race on this thread ).
Podium Finish : $10000 S Vettel @6.00

If Vettel gets the podium, I win $60,000. After subtracting the 10K, my balance after Australia would be $50,000. If he doesn't finish on the podium, I lose all my money, so my balance would be -$10,000.

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Re: 2014 Betting GAME

Post by esterence on Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:09 pm

WDC : Hamilton $10000 @ 3.50
WCC : Mclaren $10000 @7.00

Default Bet:
$5000 on win for Lewis
$5000 on pole for Lewis

Australian GP:
$5000 on Bottas for Race win
$5000 on Lewis for Quali win
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Re: 2014 Betting GAME

Post by Rus-Evo on Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:52 pm

Oh well done Schuy..... you are now my favorite Australian!
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Re: 2014 Betting GAME

Post by Rus-Evo on Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:57 pm

WDC L Hamilton 3.50
WCC Mercedes 2.10
Default bet is a Fernando points finish, or if that bet is not available for a race I will make it a Fernando podium.

Melbourne:
Safety Car Yes 1.30 - $4,000
Top 6 Finish L Hamilton 1.40 -$3,000
N Rosberg 1.45 - $3,000
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Re: 2014 Betting GAME

Post by Schuy1 on Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:14 am

OK ..... under 110 mins to get your bets on before qualifying !!

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Re: 2014 Betting GAME

Post by MONSTAR on Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:54 am

Nico WC $10000
Merc WC $10000

Race win HAm $10000

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Re: 2014 Betting GAME

Post by Schuy1 on Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:57 am

Australian GP:
Overall Qualification Winner
N Rosberg 3.50 @ $4,000

Outright Betting
L Hamilton 3.20  @ $3,000
N Rosberg 4.50  @ $3,000

Default Bet:
$10,000 - Podium Finish - N Rosberg

WDC:
L Hamilton 3.50 @ $3,000
F Alonso 7.00 @ $3,000
N Rosberg 8.00 @ $4,000

WCC:
Mercedes 2.10 @ $5,000
Ferrari 4.50 @ $3,000
Mclaren 7.00 @ $2,000

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Re: 2014 Betting GAME

Post by Schuy1 on Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:53 am

Sailqueen wrote:Woot!   PopCorn 

Forgot your tips ....... Hmmmm?  :?

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Post by Sailqueen on Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:48 am

Schuy1 wrote:
Sailqueen wrote:Woot!   PopCorn 

Forgot your tips ....... Hmmmm?  :?

Woops!  Laughing 
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Re: 2014 Betting GAME

Post by Rus-Evo on Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:45 pm

Rus-Evo wrote:
Melbourne:
Safety Car Yes 1.30 - $4,000
Top 6 Finish L Hamilton 1.40 -$3,000
N Rosberg 1.45 - $3,000
Safety Car yes win = $5,200
Top 6 Hamilton = 0
Nico Top 6 = $4350
Spend = ($10,000)
So LOSS is $450

Kinda crap for getting two of three right.
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Re: 2014 Betting GAME

Post by Redbaron on Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:27 am

I got all wrong... So starting with a big -ve 10K. Nice way to start...
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Post by Schuy1 on Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:17 am

Yeah Baby - Benz AMG Wins !!!

Don't forget "our" Rule 173.
-  All race bets are settled on the official FIA classification at the time of the podium presentation.

2014 FORMULA 1 ROLEX AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Pts
1 6 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 57 1:32:58.710 3 25
2 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing-Renault 57 +24.5 secs 2 18
3 20 Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Mercedes 57 +26.7 secs 4 15

4 22 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 57 +30.0 secs  
5 14 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 57 +35.2 secs 5 10
6 77 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 57 +47.6 secs
7 27 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 57 +50.7 secs
8 7 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 57 +57.6 secs
9 25 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Renault 57 +60.4 secs
10 26 Daniil Kvyat STR-Renault 57 +63.5 secs

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Post by Schuy1 on Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:27 am

Schuy1 wrote:Australian GP:
Overall Qualification Winner
N Rosberg 3.50 @ $4,000

Outright Betting
L Hamilton 3.20  @ $3,000
N Rosberg 4.50  @ $3,000  Laughing 

Gross win of $13,500 = Net Win of $3,500    Cool

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Post by Schuy1 on Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:49 am

Standings after Oz GRAND PRIX – Round 1:
Position / Player /  Net  Round "Win"  / Grand Total  

1 Schuy 1             + $13,500 /    + $3,500   cheers 
2 Esterence           + $11,850 /  + $1,850
3 Rus Evo              -$ 450   /            -  $ 450

4 Monstar            -$10,000 /     - $10,000
5 Red Baron          -$10,000  /   -  $10,000
6 Schumacat          -$10,000 /   - $10,000

Let me know if I made a mistake.

We seem to have a few "stragglers" yet to join .......  :? 

People can still join at Round 2 with a -$10,000 opening balance, but with the CURRENT WDC & WCC odds hereunder:

Formula 1 Drivers Championship:
L Hamilton 3.25 N Rosberg 3.50 S Vettel 4.33
F Alonso 9.00 J Button 15.00 K Magnussen 17.00
K Raikkonen 21.00 D Ricciardo 26.00 V Bottas 36.00
F Massa 41.00 N Hulkenberg 151.00 R Grosjean 201.00
P Maldonado 251.00 S Perez 251.00 J-E Vergne 301.00
D Kvyat 401.00 M Chilton 501.00 A Sutil 501.00
J Bianchi 501.00 M Ericsson 501.00 E Gutierrez 501.00
K Kobayashi 501.00

Constructors Championship 2014
Mercedes 1.57 Red Bull 4.33 Ferrari 7.50
Mclaren 11.00 Williams 21.00 Toro Rosso 201.00
Force India 201.00 Lotus 201.00 Sauber 501.00
Caterham 501.00 Marussia 501.00

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Re: 2014 Betting GAME

Post by Schuy1 on Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:50 am

Rus-Evo wrote:
Rus-Evo wrote:
Melbourne:
Safety Car Yes 1.30 - $4,000
Top 6 Finish L Hamilton 1.40 -$3,000
N Rosberg 1.45 - $3,000
Safety Car yes win =  $5,200
Top 6 Hamilton =            0
Nico Top 6 =             $4350
Spend =                 ($10,000)
So LOSS is $450

Kinda crap for getting two of three right.

Ha .... YOU did go for the "safety" bets .... didn't you   mrgreen

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Re: 2014 Betting GAME

Post by Rus-Evo on Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:15 pm

So safe that its hard to loose OR win.

I regret my wussy bet right now.
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