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Post by Rodzilla on Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:31 pm

so now that hamilton refused to let rosberg through it serves as a declaration of war, they arent teammates or friends and he ignored the team recommendation

you might say that hamilton saved himself 3rd by doing it but thats not what was on his mind, he wanted to hold up rosberg and ruin his race so that he could gain the biggest advantage possible in the championship

this is another incident rosberg can put into his "remember this" portfolio
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Re: Mercedes War

Post by Gary on Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:26 pm

Nico has good memory, and I know he will respond in kind as soon as he can, LOL.

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Re: Mercedes War

Post by Ferrari on Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:46 pm

Nico had no chance to get past without Lewis to finish the race at a slower speed and why would he?

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Post by F1 forever on Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:30 pm

Rosberg didn't even get close enough to make a move, and ultimately they were fighting for position in the race.

Lewis could have still won the race at that point. You don't slow down to let your closest championship rival past in such a scenario. He'd have been stupid to do it, and would have lost his position, too, and fallen further behind in the WDC.
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Post by Rodzilla on Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:53 pm

F1 forever wrote:Rosberg didn't even get close enough to make a move, and ultimately they were fighting for position in the race.

Lewis could have still won the race at that point. You don't slow down to let your closest championship rival past in such a scenario. He'd have been stupid to do it, and would have lost his position, too, and fallen further behind in the WDC.

he caught him up and was being held up but at the time he was in a totally different race situation, he needed to build a pitstop gap up to the williams and raikkonen

the standard move of helping the team get the maximum result has been shattered now, i remember a race last year where hamilton asked to be let through arguing rosberg wasnt on the same strategy

btw lewis if he could pass alonso would be 10-15 seconds up the road in no danger of rosberg, this is the situation mercedes had in mind
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Post by Rodzilla on Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:56 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVtx1pCTL-c

this is lewis when he needed a helping hand last year, rosberg let him through

in malaysia the team order was to not pass lewis, again rosberg had to do the team move

so far rosberg is the guy who has taken it up the ass
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Post by F1 forever on Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:34 pm

Niki Lauda has completely agreed with my assessment, and also called Hamilton's decision under the given circumstances "correct and normal".

Also, Wolff has admitted that it's been Hamilton that has been taking it up the chin this season, with 4 technical defects robbing him of too many opportunities already. The team has let him down a lot this season.

This could have made it even worse.
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Post by Rodzilla on Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:37 pm

Lauda is a hamilton fanboy because he signed him and feels responsible for his success

notice how when hamilton wins he goes crazy when rosberg wins he goes around simply shaking hands
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Post by Jarnooo on Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:05 am

So Lauda is to Hamilton as Marko is to Vettel?

I think Hamilton was right in not letting Rosberg through. Firstly, Rosberg wasn't even in DRS range. Slowing down would have cost him over 2-3 seconds. Secondly, Hamilton knows that if he let him through, Rosberg would have beaten him in the race. With the championship as it is, he can't afford to lose more points to Rosberg, so he did the right thing for himself.

It's not about what's best for Mercedes anymore. Both championships are in the bag. It's what's best for each driver. Free for all. I suggest Mercedes keep team orders off the radio for the rest of the season.

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Post by esterence on Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:01 am

Rosberg didn't even get the chance to get close to Hamilton. Had Hamilton let him through he would not have even caught Alonso let alone Ricciardo.
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Re: Mercedes War

Post by 00521 on Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:39 am

Personally, I thought it was a VERY cheap shot by Rosberg.

Can you imagine a Stirling Moss, Fangio, Jim Clark, Graham Hill, begging the team like that...?

WHAT A PATHETIC CRY BABY.

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Let's compare them.

Hamilton is a former WDC (almost 2X), Rosberg, is not.

Hamilton has how many podiums, how many wins? Compared to Rosberg.

Rosberg had arguably the BEST tutor in race craft in the current era (Schumi) as a handpicked teammate to help teach him..., yet he still cannot pass?

Frankly, Hamilton dominated practice and had his car not caught fire, he would probably have had the pole by 2/10ths. Coming from pit road to 2nd and end up 3rd was a magic hat trick in and of itself, storming through the pack in TWO races in a row, just shows superior race craft.

No, if Rosberg wants a teammate who will be slower than him, he better first be faster than his teammate.

That's the way the ADULTS do it.

Maybe Rosberg should have another tantrum, deliberately park his car and break up qually again the next go round.

Bet that kind of passive-aggressive, immature, cheating behavior will sell a lot of Mercedes.

Nice thing about Hamilton, even though he has had numerous problems with his car and lengthy pit stops all season, he is ALWAYS humble enough to thank the TEAM for getting him to the podium.

That is 'class' and it says a LOT.



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Re: Mercedes War

Post by Rodzilla on Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:48 am

00521 wrote:Personally, I thought it was a VERY cheap shot by Rosberg.

Can you imagine a Stirling Moss, Fangio, Jim Clark, Graham Hill, begging the team like that...?

WHAT A PATHETIC CRY BABY


check out this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVtx1pCTL-c

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Post by Rodzilla on Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:54 am

also i seem to remember lewis begging for the team to give him an undercut pitstop at monaco to get ahead of rosberg and even going into conspiracy mode for that

lewis is the biggest crybaby of them all
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Re: Mercedes War

Post by Rodzilla on Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:25 am

Jarnooo wrote:So Lauda is to Hamilton as Marko is to Vettel?

just do a google search "lewis hamilton lauda" or "nico rosberg lauda"

my results from google include lauda saying hamilton is unbeatable, hamilton would have won the race, hamilton is more naturally talented, lauda backs hamilton to fight back in championship, hamilton describing lauda as a kindred spirit

this latest episode prooves that lauda is firmly behind lewis
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Post by zing on Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:37 am

00521 wrote:Personally, I thought it was a VERY cheap shot by Rosberg.

Can you imagine a Stirling Moss, Fangio, Jim Clark, Graham Hill, begging the team like that...?

WHAT A PATHETIC CRY BABY.

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Let's compare them.

Hamilton is a former WDC (almost 2X), Rosberg, is not.

Hamilton has how many podiums, how many wins? Compared to Rosberg.

Rosberg had arguably the BEST tutor in race craft in the current era (Schumi) as a handpicked teammate to help teach him..., yet he still cannot pass?

Frankly, Hamilton dominated practice and had his car not caught fire, he would probably have had the pole by 2/10ths. Coming from pit road to 2nd and end up 3rd was a magic hat trick in and of itself, storming through the pack in TWO races in a row, just shows superior race craft.

No, if Rosberg wants a teammate who will be slower than him, he better first be faster than his teammate.

That's the way the ADULTS do it.

Maybe Rosberg should have another tantrum, deliberately park his car and break up qually again the next go round.

Bet that kind of passive-aggressive, immature, cheating behavior will sell a lot of Mercedes.

Nice thing about Hamilton, even though he has had numerous problems with his car and lengthy pit stops all season, he is ALWAYS humble enough to thank the TEAM for getting him to the podium.

That is 'class' and it says a LOT.



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What drivel .
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Re: Mercedes War

Post by zing on Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:41 am

Rodzilla wrote:also i seem to remember lewis begging for the team to give him an undercut pitstop at monaco to get ahead of rosberg and even going into conspiracy mode for that

lewis is the biggest crybaby of them all

He was crying that Alonso cut the chicane .....


Meanwhile Rosberg was told that Lewis was instructed that Lewis would let him pass - asked twice why it
was not happening simply.

For the record I support lewis's refusal to give points away to Nico in the WDC - but from a team stand point it was
not the thing to do. Anyway no driver in their right mind wants to give away championship points to their rival.
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Re: Mercedes War

Post by 00521 on Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:20 am

zing wrote:
00521 wrote:Personally, I thought it was a VERY cheap shot by Rosberg.

Can you imagine a Stirling Moss, Fangio, Jim Clark, Graham Hill, begging the team like that...?

WHAT A PATHETIC CRY BABY.

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Let's compare them.

Hamilton is a former WDC (almost 2X), Rosberg, is not.

Hamilton has how many podiums, how many wins? Compared to Rosberg.

Rosberg had arguably the BEST tutor in race craft in the current era (Schumi) as a handpicked teammate to help teach him..., yet he still cannot pass?

Frankly, Hamilton dominated practice and had his car not caught fire, he would probably have had the pole by 2/10ths. Coming from pit road to 2nd and end up 3rd was a magic hat trick in and of itself, storming through the pack in TWO races in a row, just shows superior race craft.

No, if Rosberg wants a teammate who will be slower than him, he better first be faster than his teammate.

That's the way the ADULTS do it.

Maybe Rosberg should have another tantrum, deliberately park his car and break up qually again the next go round.

Bet that kind of passive-aggressive, immature, cheating behavior will sell a lot of Mercedes.

Nice thing about Hamilton, even though he has had numerous problems with his car and lengthy pit stops all season, he is ALWAYS humble enough to thank the TEAM for getting him to the podium.

That is 'class' and it says a LOT.



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00521

 What drivel .


So, Zing,

2 words?

You are more usually articulate than that.


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Post by 00521 on Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:25 am

zing wrote:
Rodzilla wrote:also i seem to remember lewis begging for the team to give him an undercut pitstop at monaco to get ahead of rosberg and even going into conspiracy mode for that

lewis is the biggest crybaby of them all

  He was crying that Alonso cut the chicane .....


   Meanwhile Rosberg was told that  Lewis was instructed that Lewis would let him pass - asked twice why it
was not happening simply.

  For the record I support lewis's refusal to give points away to Nico in the WDC - but from a team stand point it was
not the thing to do.   Anyway no driver in their right mind wants to give away championship points to their rival.  



Well, factually... Alonso did cut the chicane and he gained 2 car lengths.

Big Deal. It happened. No harm.

However, as you said... Crying about the car ahead that you're locked in a WDC fight with, your main opponent not pulling over... C'mon.

Beyond Absurd.

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Post by Rodzilla on Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:05 am

i have already demonstrated lewis crying about rosberg getting out of his way in that link, i recommend that you look into it

if rosberg was crying about lewis then it is only a return cry to make it 1-1 on the crying (at best for lewis)
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Post by Jarnooo on Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:45 pm

Nobody likes it when any driver whines on the radio. Should gives penalties for excessive whining  mrgreen

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Post by Mach1 on Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:10 pm

NO...NO...NO  grrr1 

Let's keep driver radio whining talk on air.  The audience can hear for themselves who the racers are and who the cry-baby's are.

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Post by zing on Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:44 pm

Mach1 wrote:NO...NO...NO  grrr1 

Let's keep driver radio whining talk on air.  The audience can hear for themselves who the racers are and who the cry-baby's are.

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Yeah Germany 2013 was pretty good .
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Re: Mercedes War

Post by 00521 on Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:52 am

Back in the day...

- When Men were Men...
- Women were Women...
- & Cars were Cars...

There was no 2 way radio in the cars...

The TUBES would never have lasted beyond the first bump and the TELEGRAPH key for the MORSE CODE would have been in the way..  (LOL)


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Post by zing on Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:25 am




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Post by Rus-Evo on Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:23 pm

I remember last year Rosberg gave way to Lewis under protest and said something like "I will remember this". He could be forgiven for feeling that the favour was not returned.

But this season is a different situation though, no favours is the best way IMHO their battle is all that saves the season.
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