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Post by Schuy1 on Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:05 am

Nico's turn this time?

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2014 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX
Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
1 6 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:33.228 14
2 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:34.210 0.982 10
3 14 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:34.439 1.211 12
4 19 Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 1:34.564 1.336 12
5 77 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 1:35.061 1.833 16
6 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:35.086 1.858 13
7 20 Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.251 2.023 16
8 25 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Renault 1:35.494 2.266 8
9 26 Daniil Kvyat STR-Renault 1:35.538 2.310 17
10 22 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.549 2.321 16

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Post by Jarnooo on Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:43 am

Will Hamilton's car be fixed in time?

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Post by Mika-Juan-Kimi on Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:52 am

cant wait for this qualy
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Post by Gary on Sat Oct 04, 2014 1:10 pm

Quali was, apart from Merc dominance interesting, because teams seemed to have different setups for tomorrow.

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Post by Jarnooo on Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:16 pm

I wonder if anyone will have gone for a full wet setup. For a smaller team, it seems to be worth a try.

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Post by Gary on Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:18 pm

I suspect Red Bulls and maybe Kimi.

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Post by Gary on Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:20 pm

Which also might mean Ricciardo has another good chance at podium. Cool
I like his driving!

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Post by Jarnooo on Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:15 am

Looking very grim. Bianchi had an incident and it looks serious.

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Post by Panda on Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:17 am

FIA has confirmed Bianchi was unconscious when airlifted

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Post by Edu.R on Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:21 am

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Post by Jarnooo on Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:22 am

It appears that he did hit the recovery vehicle. Memories of Maria De Villota's incident.

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Post by esterence on Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:23 am

Why wasn't the crash televised?

I was initially frustrated the race is stopped with so few laps remaining, Button have a real shot of getting a very good result on wet tyres. But now with the news of Bianchi, it's probably the right decision.
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Post by Jarnooo on Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:25 am

Either they didn't catch it, because Sutil had already been off there, or they decided not to show it, in which case I'm glad they didn't.

Some may not want to see this photo, but it gives a pretty good indication of what happened in Bianchi's accident. Nothing graphic really but just being sensitive.
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Post by esterence on Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:54 am

Omfg, the damage to that part of the car, both the top and the nose tells us everything. Hope he's fine but really not looking good. Brought goosebumps to me that photo.
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Post by Jarnooo on Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:08 am

There are more and more pictures coming up but quite frankly I don't want to post any.

EDIT: FIA says that he is unconscious in hospital.

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Post by 00521 on Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:02 pm

May Jules somehow recover.

I aways wondered if he was somehow related to Lucien Bianchi, his great uncle, a great F-1 racer of the 60s, who passed at Le Mans.

Just before the accident happened, I actually was wondering why the marshals were not quickly pushing Sutil's car by hand into the nearby retrieval opening as it seemed too dangerous to deploy a crane JUST in case someone else went off the same spot.

I felt maybe it was too wet or the Sutil car was dug in.

Then it happened.

Perhaps that other scenario... would have been worse with Marshalls getting killed, but this seems preventable, somehow. I mean...

Anyway, what is... is.


Now we can only pray and hope for a REAL miracle.


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Post by zing on Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:07 pm

Sad sad sad. May a miracle happen and may he recover .........
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Post by 00521 on Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:12 pm

zing wrote:Sad sad sad.  May a miracle happen and may he recover .........

Absolutely... Absolutely... old friend.

I just wish they had recovered the Sutil car under a safety car and full course yellow, but its too late now.

It was so preventable.

We have to hope that a miracle occurs, he is still young and resilient...


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Post by Jarnooo on Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:26 pm

I hope in the future, perhaps something like low skirts on the recovery vehicles will prevent head injuries like this from happening. The FIA said that he is undergoing surgery at the moment. If Schumacher can somehow still be alive right now, then I think Jules has every chance. I wish him all the best and hope he has a speedy recovery.

On another note, assuming and hoping that Jules pulls through and Marussia race next week, will it be Rossi or new reserve driver Stevens that races in his place?

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Post by Gary on Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:20 pm

Very sad situation. I hope he recovers, but seems that chances are on the slim side.

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Post by Mika-Juan-Kimi on Sun Oct 05, 2014 4:03 pm

its a similar accident to María de Villota unfortunately
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Post by Rus-Evo on Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:23 pm

On the BBC coverage I watched they played it very low key, so much so that I thought that Sutil was the one hurt, but not too badly.
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Post by KoKiNa on Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:29 pm

Yep, the crash remembers me much of the Maria crash, hopefully no cutting edges on that crane vehicule and F1 helmet are stronger than the Schummy's skiing helmet...

My pray for him to recover completely soon. Come on Jules, you can.
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Post by F1 forever on Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:05 am

Does anyone know how much time passed between the crashes of Sutil and Bianchi?
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Post by 00521 on Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:31 am

F1 forever wrote:Does anyone know how much time passed between the crashes of Sutil and Bianchi?


Only 1 lap.

Sutil went off on 42. Bianchi went off at the same spot on 43, and the race continued for about 4 more laps, as no one knew what was happening.

The crane had picked up Sutil's car and was moving backwards into the retrieval hole behind the course when Bianchi slid into it.

Apparently, Sutil actually got back on his car radio to request assistance for Bianchi.

Double yellow was waved, but the rain actually doubled in intensity around lap 39-40.

Massa complained that the race should be stopped at that point as the track got treacherous again... (lap 40), which would have made it an official race.

The entire thing should be chalked up to the organizers not running the race earlier, especially since the medical helicopter was prevented from flying by the weather, and you cannot officially run an F-1 race without medi-vac being available and flyable.

I really think that Dr Sid Watkins (the F-1 neurosurgeon) would NEVER have allowed the race to proceed without the Helicopter.

Lost of soul searching (and major changes) should be done, ...if the Suzuka organizers really care, and if not, they should be sued by Bianchi's family for reckless endangerment.

Lets just hope and pray that he comes out of this without permanent damage.

It just feels like they are operating in the mid 1970s...  a drive to the hospital in an ambulance (because the chopper was weather grounded), when each second unconscious can possibly lead to elements of permanent brain death.... so much wasted time, plus the bouncing around on the road, when portions of the brain may be torn... not good for severe brain injuries,..

We can only hope and pray.

Miracles do happen.



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