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Both Marussia and Caterham will miss next weekend's US Grand Prix

Message par RaySinKa le Sam Oct 25, 2014 3:19 pm

Bernie Says

Marussia look likely to miss the Brazilian Grand Prix as well.

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Re: Both Marussia and Caterham will miss next weekend's US Grand Prix

Message par Jarnooo le Sam Oct 25, 2014 4:30 pm

I don't know about that. Bernie is full of shit half the time. This could be one of those things he said in passing. Hopefully Marussia will make it.

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Re: Both Marussia and Caterham will miss next weekend's US Grand Prix

Message par Gary le Sam Oct 25, 2014 10:18 pm

They won't!

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Re: Both Marussia and Caterham will miss next weekend's US Grand Prix

Message par Jarnooo le Lun Oct 27, 2014 2:19 pm

It has been confirmed, and they too have gone into administration.

Is this the lowest the sport has been...ever? Any of you guys who have been following longer than me want to confirm that?

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Re: Both Marussia and Caterham will miss next weekend's US Grand Prix

Message par RaySinKa le Lun Oct 27, 2014 6:43 pm

They will also both probably miss Brazil as the transport arrangements funded by F1 are contracted to take the cars from Austin to Brazil, so if they are not in Austin they will need funds to make their own transport from their bases to Brazil!

Seems to me that we will have three car teams soon.

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Re: Both Marussia and Caterham will miss next weekend's US Grand Prix

Message par Gary le Lun Oct 27, 2014 8:14 pm

I don't actually mind three car teams.

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Re: Both Marussia and Caterham will miss next weekend's US Grand Prix

Message par RaySinKa le Lun Oct 27, 2014 8:34 pm

Gary a écrit:

I don't actually mind three car teams.


Me neither, except I believe it needs structure.

Each team should have two experienced drivers and one "Young" driver, thus giving drivers a progression route.

The Constructors Championship should be counted on two nominated drivers, maybe one should be the "Young" driver.


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Re: Both Marussia and Caterham will miss next weekend's US Grand Prix

Message par 00521 le Mar Oct 28, 2014 2:58 am

Jarnooo a écrit:It has been confirmed, and they too have gone into administration.

Is this the lowest the sport has been...ever? Any of you guys who have been following longer than me want to confirm that?

No, many teams have Come, Flopped, Died... and 'Went'.

Lets see...

Mercedes, Lancia, Maserati, ERA, Connaught, BRP, Vanwall, Scarab, Gordini, Alta, JBW, ENB-Maserati, Porsche, ATS, Equipe Scirocco Belge, Aiden-Cooper, De Tomaso, BRM, Honda, Cooper, Bellasi, Connew, Eifelland, Penske, Hill, Matra, Hesketh, Shadow, Arrows, Ensign, Berta, Fittipaldi, Wolf, Kauhsen, Merzario, Brabham, Alfa Romeo, Spirit, Modena Lamborghini, Dome-Mugen Honda, Martini, Tecno, Larousse, Ligier, Osella, Lotus, Bennetton, Scuderia Italia, Lola, Toyota, Tyrell, Minardi, Prost, Jordan, Jaguar, Stewart, BAR, Brawn.

Waaaaay, too many to count... in fact... (and ... I know I've missed a FEW).


Yes... F-1 will even survive this... and BE's passing, also.


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Re: Both Marussia and Caterham will miss next weekend's US Grand Prix

Message par RaySinKa le Mar Oct 28, 2014 8:13 am

A long list there but not all flopped and Failed! Brawn, Jordan, Bennetton to name a few. They surely had successes and rather than failed, they moved on with new owners.

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Re: Both Marussia and Caterham will miss next weekend's US Grand Prix

Message par RaySinKa le Mar Oct 28, 2014 9:08 am

An after the fact thought;

Was anyone else puzzled when Marussia only ran one car at the last race. They claimed it was out of respect to Bianchi but at the time I thought, they are saving money on tyres, fuel, engines, gearbox and possibly driver fees?

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Re: Both Marussia and Caterham will miss next weekend's US Grand Prix

Message par RaySinKa le Mar Oct 28, 2014 9:11 am

An interesting read;

Benetton's Fall From Grace


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Re: Both Marussia and Caterham will miss next weekend's US Grand Prix

Message par satos le Mar Oct 28, 2014 9:54 am

RaySinKa a écrit:
Gary a écrit:






Each team should have two experienced drivers and one "Young" driver, thus giving drivers a progression route.



Totally agree.
I would rather have performing teams than under performing ones.
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Re: Both Marussia and Caterham will miss next weekend's US Grand Prix

Message par esterence le Mar Oct 28, 2014 10:22 am

Ridiculous. What a farce
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Re: Both Marussia and Caterham will miss next weekend's US Grand Prix

Message par Rus-Evo le Mar Oct 28, 2014 8:47 pm

I feel cross because Prodrive tried to get in a few years back but were prevented as they didn't want to use a Cosworth engine at that time so were blocked by Mosley (let me know if I remember that wrong). In exchange we got teams with less credible chances at survival. Just MHO.
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Re: Both Marussia and Caterham will miss next weekend's US Grand Prix

Message par 00521 le Mer Oct 29, 2014 3:15 am

RaySinKa a écrit:A long list there but not all flopped and Failed! Brawn, Jordan, Bennetton to name a few. They surely had successes and rather than failed, they moved on with new owners.

Ray,

Well Taken...

Yes... should have said... "passed on".


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Message par 00521 le Mer Oct 29, 2014 3:18 am

Rus-Evo a écrit:I feel cross because Prodrive tried to get in a few years back but were prevented as they didn't want to use a Cosworth engine at that time so were blocked by Mosley (let me know if I remember that wrong).  In exchange we got teams with less credible chances at survival.  Just MHO.

Rus,

Funny you should mention that, as I have actually thought about it quite a bit of late

Truly a shame.  They could have definitely been contenders.

The "BM Club" (BernieMax) just did not want them.

Pay 2 Play.

BTW...

http://www.gtspirit.com/2013/10/18/prodrives-24-million-carbon-fiber-order-was-for-mclaren-p1/



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Re: Both Marussia and Caterham will miss next weekend's US Grand Prix

Message par Ferrari le Mar Nov 04, 2014 11:19 am

It's sad that 'bad?' regulation changes can drive a whole era of motorsports into the grave. I've heard that the new power train costs vast more than former regulations did. Also the engine freeze contributes to lack of interest in the public eye since teams have no chance to catch Mercedes without still a change. The sound is horrible both on TV and on track. Please.... make it a racing competition again. Sorry for letting my despair out on you guys...

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Re: Both Marussia and Caterham will miss next weekend's US Grand Prix

Message par JPS4ever le Mar Nov 04, 2014 4:41 pm

^ +1

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Re: Both Marussia and Caterham will miss next weekend's US Grand Prix

Message par Jarnooo le Mer Nov 05, 2014 3:11 am

The Force India/Sauber/Lotus boycott threat is starting to sound more like they are holding Bernie at ransom.

Hopefully they can find some sort of agreement that distributes the money more fairly, rather than just giving those three teams more money, because that isn't fair either.

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Re: Both Marussia and Caterham will miss next weekend's US Grand Prix

Message par Jarnooo le Ven Nov 07, 2014 3:53 pm

So guys, Marussia is officially dead. I guess those two Indian blokes decided against buying out the team. A shame, but in 5 years, who will remember Marussia? Who even remembers HRT? I hope some new teams come forward that actually have a hope in the sport. Prize money is one thing, but I doubt Marussia would have won a race even with Ferrari's budget.

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