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Message par F1 forever le Ven Sep 25, 2015 1:50 pm

Free practice 2:

1 Daniil Kwjat › Red Bull › 1.48.277 ---
2 Nico Rosberg › Mercedes › 1.48.300 + 0.023
3 Lewis Hamilton › Mercedes › 1.48.853 + 0.576
4 Daniel Ricciardo › Red Bull › 1.49.097 + 0.820
5 Sebastian Vettel › Ferrari › 1.50.268 + 1.991
6 Kimi Räikkönen › Ferrari › 1.50.319 + 2.042
7 Carlos Sainz › Toro Rosso › 1.50.418 + 2.141
8 Max Verstappen › Toro Rosso › 1.50.542 + 2.265
9 Felipe Nasr › Sauber › 1.50.968 + 2.691
10 Pastor Maldonado › Lotus › 1.51.557 + 3.280
11 Nico Hülkenberg › Force India › 1.51.674 + 3.397
12 Jenson Button › McLaren › 1.51.861 + 3.584
13 Marcus Ericsson › Sauber › 1.51.934 + 3.657
14 Sergio Perez › Force India › 1.52.070 + 3.793
15 Romain Grosjean › Lotus › 1.52.534 + 4.257
16 Felipe Massa › Williams › 1.52.765 + 4.488
17 Fernando Alonso › McLaren › 1.55.239 + 6.962
18 Will Stevens › Manor-Marussia › 1.58.059 + 9.782
19 Alexander Rossi › Manor-Marussia › 1.59.419 + 11.142
20 Valtteri Bottas › Williams › --- ---

Times apparently don't mean much because of the weather conditions. Still the first time in 2015 that Mercedes hasn't led on a Friday (FP1 or FP2), supposedly.

Second time (this season) Kwjat leads a session, after Singapore last weekend.


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Re: 2015 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX

Message par F1 forever le Ven Sep 25, 2015 1:52 pm

Race is going to start at 7 am (for me). Hate that on a Sunday!
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Re: 2015 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX

Message par F1 forever le Ven Sep 25, 2015 2:20 pm

You can always count on Pastor...

A number of drivers ran wide in the wet but none suffered major damage to the car. The most bizarre incident came early in the session when Pastor Maldonado drove clean off the track as he appeared to take his eye off the road on the exit of Turn 2.
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Re: 2015 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX

Message par F1 forever le Sam Sep 26, 2015 4:13 pm

I'm glad I didn't get up for this qualifying. Kwjat's "rookie mistake" pretty much ruined it anyway. Pole time is actually below last year's due to this.

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Message par Jarnooo le Sam Sep 26, 2015 5:05 pm

Spectacular crash. Lewis wasn't far behind Nico on a scruffy lap so no doubt pole could have been far quicker.

Mercedes back to normal and well clear of the rest again.

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Re: 2015 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX

Message par F1 forever le Sam Sep 26, 2015 9:18 pm

Now here'd be a chance to improve the spectacle: If something like this happens (car problems ruining everyone's most crucial quali attempt), there should be a rule that the Top 10 get another shot at it, even if it adds a few mins to the whole thing. Would also prevent things like Nico's (let's call it "questionable") Monaco pole last season - and eliminate the incentive to pull off stunts like that. TV stations shouldn't have much of a problem with that - happens with many other sports broadcasts, too.

This was a downer not just for the drivers (Vettel, Kimi, Lewis etc.), but especially for the fans. I'm still annoyed that I wasted 1 hour watching this, waiting for that moment and then...nothing.

That's just terrible entertainment. Makes me not want to watch quali for a while.
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Message par Gary le Dim Sep 27, 2015 12:14 am

F1 forever a écrit:Now here'd be a chance to improve the spectacle: If something like this happens (car problems ruining everyone's most crucial quali attempt), there should be a rule that the Top 10 get another shot at it, even if it adds a few mins to the whole thing. Would also prevent things like Nico's (let's call it "questionable") Monaco pole last season - and eliminate the incentive to pull off stunts like that. TV stations shouldn't have much of a problem with that - happens with many other sports broadcasts, too.

This was a downer not just for the drivers (Vettel, Kimi, Lewis etc.), but especially for the fans. I'm still annoyed that I wasted 1 hour watching this, waiting for that moment and then...nothing.

That's just terrible entertainment. Makes me not want to watch quali for a while.

Agreed!

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Re: 2015 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX

Message par Jarnooo le Dim Sep 27, 2015 5:13 am

Great idea actually. Allow each driver 1 more lap.

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Re: 2015 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX

Message par Zag le Dim Sep 27, 2015 11:53 am

I agree... crazy to ruin the show for one drivers mistake...  

Boring race... right result...

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Re: 2015 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX

Message par F1 forever le Dim Sep 27, 2015 3:37 pm

Congrats Lewis - first Suzuka victory for him! cheers

Really enjoyed the race actually, with lots of overtaking and wheel-to-wheel racing especially in the midfield. Watching the Sky broadcast may have also had something to do with that.

It's a shame that Ferrari let Mercedes undercut them with Rosberg...should have been a great duel between Vettel and Rosberg if Vettel stayed in front!

And Bottas...does he have a reputation for being easily overtaken?

I watched on youtube, and the account from which the race was posted was suspended while I was watching! Thankfully, I could still watch until the end.
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Message par F1 forever le Dim Sep 27, 2015 3:46 pm

Alonso publicly calling his Honda PU a "GP2 engine" at Honda's home race, also saying how "embarassing" the car is, with the President of Honda at the race? WTF? He's the highest-paid driver in F1, and that's how he repays them? By humiliating them publicly? That's RedBull-worthy behaviour!

Of course, Ferrari has indicated he's been no different when he was with them. They sure are glad to have that guy off their team, miss no opportunity to stress how much Vettel has improved the atmosphere within the team.

Ron Dennis and Alonso are really the dream team in F1. Boy must it be fun working with them!
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Message par F1 forever le Dim Sep 27, 2015 4:19 pm

Haha, Lauda complaining about the lack of Mercedes coverage during the race. Gotta admit, I was looking for them most of the race, too. You can make a point about Lewis being in front, but you can still show the race leader at times...also Nico/Vettel was never shown. I was always trying to spot them at the edge of the screen with no success.
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Message par F1 forever le Dim Sep 27, 2015 5:11 pm

Massa really has a knack for getting involved in crashes.
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Message par F1 forever le Dim Sep 27, 2015 5:14 pm

"Alonso: No-one should doubt my commitment to McLaren"

Brundle: "That's a man trying to get fired!"

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Re: 2015 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX

Message par Zag le Dim Sep 27, 2015 9:09 pm

F1 forever a écrit:

Really enjoyed the race actually, with lots of overtaking and wheel-to-wheel racing especially in the midfield. Watching the Sky broadcast may have also had something to do with that.


I have both Sky and BBC, the coverage is the same... neither station can choose what is shown.

As to the midfield I would rather have seen the fight/closeness between Rosberg and Vettel rather than
those squabbling over 12th or 13th for lap after lap after lap...

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Message par F1 forever le Dim Sep 27, 2015 10:14 pm

Zag a écrit:
F1 forever a écrit:

Really enjoyed the race actually, with lots of overtaking and wheel-to-wheel racing especially in the midfield. Watching the Sky broadcast may have also had something to do with that.


I have both Sky and BBC, the coverage is the same... neither station can choose what is shown.

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Yes, that's the World Feed, but what I'm referring to is the quality of the commentators vs. the ones in my home country. Imagine the most annoying person you've ever known on TV, that makes you cringe every time he opens his mouth (which is all the time), talking over every race for 2 straight decades...and maybe, just maybe, you get an inkling of what it's like...(probably not).
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Message par F1 forever le Dim Sep 27, 2015 11:16 pm

Mercedes getting the "invisible treatment" from Bernie?

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2015/09/27/did-fom-give-mercedes-its-invisible-treatment-in-japan/

We'll never know!
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Re: 2015 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX

Message par Jarnooo le Lun Sep 28, 2015 2:51 am

Button and Alonso have been acting like children lately, both whining about problems that really are out of the team's control. What's the point? You only make yourself and the team look bad.

Bottas was put on the wrong strategy by Williams I think. Put him on the mediums instead of the hards and that hurt him. They need a new strategist.

I didn't think the coverage was so bad, although some people seem to think it was. Rosberg and Vettel couldn't have been that close if the camera didn't pan to them. We got to see some good dogfights in the meantime in the midfield. I'm happy with that.

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Re: 2015 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX

Message par F1 forever le Lun Sep 28, 2015 6:25 pm

Button has just been playing the media like a fiddle

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/24180/10009517/how-jenson-button-is-winning-mclaren-poker-game-with-ron-dennis

Understandable, but it also shows how he has no qualms about flat out lying to the media (and thus the fans that believe in his honesty). I really used to like Button, but that started changing last season already. It's a bit of a shame.
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Message par F1 forever le Lun Sep 28, 2015 6:47 pm

Ecclestone says "no manipulation" relative to the the TV coverage - but admits the directors may have oderdone it wrt. giving the midfield more support (which is what was decided a few weeks ago).

There were some glaring omissions during the race, but I guess there'll be more balance at the next race (because everyone will pay very close attention).

I found it interesting that the teams also seem to rely on the World Feed. I thought they'd have broader access there.
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Re: 2015 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX

Message par Zag le Lun Sep 28, 2015 8:09 pm

I don't think Jenson has been lying..... just playing it smart, and why not..

As to showing the midfield it even started on the first lap...  there were no
decent pictures of the second corner fight between LH and NR...  
Bernie should realise that if Mercedes, Red Bull and Ferrari don't get the TV coverage then they
will think it a very expensive advertising tool and think of something else to spend their money on....

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Message par F1 forever le Lun Sep 28, 2015 11:06 pm

Zag a écrit:I don't think Jenson has been lying..... just playing it smart, and why not..

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Definition of LIE

intransitive verb
1
:  to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive
2
:  to create a false or misleading impression

Just google some of the things he's said over the last few weeks alone...it's a neverending stream of lies.
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Re: 2015 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX

Message par Zag le Mar Sep 29, 2015 11:03 am

Thanks, but I already knew the definition of the word lie...

Playing your cards close to your chest or putting a possible scenario out to your
employer to get the deal you want sounds smart to me... I think most of us knew
what Button really wanted to happen and I hope it happens.

Definition of DISAGREE

verb

1: to have an opinion that is different from the opinion that another person has

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Re: 2015 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX

Message par F1 forever le Jeu Oct 01, 2015 5:18 pm

Zag a écrit:Thanks, but I already knew the definition of the word lie...

Playing your cards close to your chest or putting a possible scenario out to your
employer to get the deal you want sounds smart to me... I think most of us knew
what Button really wanted to happen and I hope it happens.

Definition of DISAGREE

verb

1: to have an opinion that is different from the opinion that another person has

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Then you are just unaware of the lies he told, that's ok. I don't mind him playing it "smart". I just mind him lying his ass off in the process. And then having to lie again to keep his house of lies from collapsing.
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