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Message par Gary le Sam 29 Juin - 16:02:42

Fecking Lewis, playing games against his own team mate!

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Message par 00521 le Dim 30 Juin - 21:13:01

Gary a écrit:Fecking Lewis, playing games against his own team mate!

Hmnnn.... Not so sure...

To me the biggie was Verstappen's 'Schumi style' overtake + tap of Leclerc.

Where was the car width gap in the side by side?

Had Leclerc stood his ground, they both would have gone off in the weeds, and maybe that would have taught Verstappen to give rivals decent space.

Anyway, the race is over, and they didn't want a riot; but that was pretty borderline illegal to me.



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Message par rd_12 le Lun 1 Juil - 18:30:34

00521 a écrit:...
Had Leclerc stood his ground, they both would have gone off in the weeds, and maybe that would have taught Verstappen to give rivals decent space.

Anyway, the race is over, and they didn't want a riot; but that was pretty borderline illegal to me...
I agree.

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Message par Gary le Lun 1 Juil - 22:39:22

00521 a écrit:
Gary a écrit:Fecking Lewis, playing games against his own team mate!

Hmnnn.... Not so sure...

To me the biggie was Verstappen's 'Schumi style' overtake + tap of Leclerc.

Where was the car width gap in the side by side?

Had Leclerc stood his ground, they both would have gone off in the weeds, and maybe that would have taught Verstappen to give rivals decent space.

Anyway, the race is over, and they didn't want a riot; but that was pretty borderline illegal to me.



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My comment was about quali not the race.

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Message par Gary le Lun 1 Juil - 22:39:35

rd_12 a écrit:
00521 a écrit:...
Had Leclerc stood his ground, they both would have gone off in the weeds, and maybe that would have taught Verstappen to give rivals decent space.

Anyway, the race is over, and they didn't want a riot; but that was pretty borderline illegal to me...
I agree.

yup

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Message par 00521 le Lun 1 Juil - 23:18:01

Gary a écrit:
00521 a écrit:
Gary a écrit:Fecking Lewis, playing games against his own team mate!

Hmnnn.... Not so sure...

To me the biggie was Verstappen's 'Schumi style' overtake + tap of Leclerc.

Where was the car width gap in the side by side?

Had Leclerc stood his ground, they both would have gone off in the weeds, and maybe that would have taught Verstappen to give rivals decent space.

Anyway, the race is over, and they didn't want a riot; but that was pretty borderline illegal to me.



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00521

My comment was about quali not the race.


Gary,  

Yes, I realized afterwards.

There has to be much more consistency in the officiating, and I think a lot of it comes down to better steward training.

Todt's FIA needs to get all the local race stewards into a separate conference (like a driver's meeting) BEFORE FP1 at EVERY race, and go over the rulebook, look at race venue, the traditional incident spots at each track and then play out theoretical scenarios, from the coming race.

This should also include emergency medical situations that may occur on the track (for the emergency service professionals).

This is 2019.  Today's computer sims are great for this kind of stuff.


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Message par 00521 le Lun 1 Juil - 23:23:02

rd_12 a écrit:
00521 a écrit:...
Had Leclerc stood his ground, they both would have gone off in the weeds, and maybe that would have taught Verstappen to give rivals decent space.

Anyway, the race is over, and they didn't want a riot; but that was pretty borderline illegal to me...
I agree.

Yes, at what point do we allow illegal behavior?

If emboldened, certain drivers will take more and more.  This was clearly an illegal push at the apex..

Had Leclerc pushed back, he would have been penalized, or worse, both cars would have been taken out in a Prost-Senna flashback; yet no penalty for Verstappen?

Why have a regulation book at all?



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Message par Gary le Mar 2 Juil - 11:08:01

00521 a écrit:
Gary a écrit:
00521 a écrit:
Gary a écrit:Fecking Lewis, playing games against his own team mate!

Hmnnn.... Not so sure...

To me the biggie was Verstappen's 'Schumi style' overtake + tap of Leclerc.

Where was the car width gap in the side by side?

Had Leclerc stood his ground, they both would have gone off in the weeds, and maybe that would have taught Verstappen to give rivals decent space.

Anyway, the race is over, and they didn't want a riot; but that was pretty borderline illegal to me.



Cordial Best,

00521

My comment was about quali not the race.


Gary,  

Yes, I realized afterwards.

There has to be much more consistency in the officiating, and I think a lot of it comes down to better steward training.

Todt's FIA needs to get all the local race stewards into a separate conference (like a driver's meeting) BEFORE FP1 at EVERY race, and go over the rulebook, look at race venue, the traditional incident spots at each track and then play out theoretical scenarios, from the coming race.

This should also include emergency medical situations that may occur on the track (for the emergency service professionals).

This is 2019.  Today's computer sims are great for this kind of stuff.


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00521

You have it right yes.

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