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Message par 00521 le Dim Sep 08, 2019 10:24 am


Dear Friends,
May You Enjoy Monza!

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Message par 00521 le Dim Sep 08, 2019 4:11 pm

So, LeClerc is proving a cheat.

Changing 2 direction under braking,
leaving the track and gaining unfair advantage,
squeezing
Interesting.

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Message par Gary le Lun Sep 09, 2019 1:53 am

Plus:
- LeClerk, even with his swerving
- Renault

Minus:
- Sebastian Vettel

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Message par Panda le Lun Sep 09, 2019 2:25 pm

We shouldn't forget the show during Q3. It is something I commented years ago when this modality was implemented, of course after several years I have to say I was proved wrong.

But this weekend all my predictions fell beautiful into their places when everybody, every driver and team had the same interest during qualifying.

What happened in Q3 is easily explained: nobody wanted to be in front and miss the advantage of being towed by the car in front of you. The rest was predictable when was evident they wouldn’t make to the finish line before the time expired.

There is nothing in the rules that would impede the teams and drivers to go out at the same time in the last minute… or two. I guess the fact that all these years only few drivers, normally 2 or 3 per race, have realistic opportunities to make the pole made it simple. The slowest cars normally yield to them by taking the track earlier and/or in a different time slot of those that are going for the pole.

This is probably something that is a given or discussed during the drivers briefing before the races, but again, probably is not as I haven't heard anything from any driver in this regard.

Singapore would be the next, and I did another prediction about that one: night race in a Southeast Asia country where the chances of rain are always high. It hasn't quite happened, although 2017 was close, anyway I still remember Malaysia 2009 and Korea 2010.

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Message par Gary le Lun Sep 09, 2019 4:45 pm

Rain in Singapore, hmm, that would be interesting...

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Message par Zag le Lun Sep 09, 2019 10:19 pm


Leclerc - a cheat
Seb - finished
Race stewards - chickens

Enjoyable race though...

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Message par 00521 le Mer Sep 11, 2019 7:57 am

Zag a écrit:
Leclerc - a cheat
Seb - finished
Race stewards - chickens

Enjoyable race though...

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I can't remember another driver in the lead, in F-1. getting a black stripe warning flag like that.

Frankly, IMHO, he should have gotten a 5-10 sec penalty. No ambiguity. He was just rewarded for cheating.

In F-1, 99% of the time, race leaders absolutely know when THEY violate the sporting regulations.


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Message par Gary le Mer Sep 11, 2019 2:43 pm

Hard to remember as such flag has been in use in F1 only 2 races now...

Not saying LeClerk didn't do shitty, but like he himself says, he was taught by the best: Verstappen and Hamilton.  Very Happy


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Message par 00521 le Mer Sep 11, 2019 8:15 pm

Gary a écrit:Hard to remember as such flag has been in use in F1 only 2 races now...

Not saying LeClerk didn't do shitty, but like he himself says, he was taught by the best: Verstappen and Hamilton.  Very Happy



2 Races?   Gee. /;-0 ??? ... hahaha. OMG. I'm friggin' gettin' ancient.

Gary, I was thinking of the old Black & White 'Warning Flag', Half Black Half White. Diagonal split. Somehow confused them.

So, is that old flag abolished now?

Anyway, I agree... he was taught by the best: Schumi & Vettel (Red Bull's Twin-Diffuser days).   Smile
Vettel's a different man, now, but the petty Italian press and new Ferrari management has him doubting himself...

Nowadays, @ Ferrari, you're only as good as your last race...  that's really a shame.

Frankly, I think Kimi got the royal shaft, now Vettel is too. Just my 2 cents.


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Message par Zag le Mer Sep 11, 2019 11:11 pm

Gary a écrit:Not saying LeClerk didn't do shitty, but like he himself says, he was taught by the best: Verstappen and Hamilton.  Very Happy


Taught by Max and few others maybe, but not Hammy. He's always been a clean racer except perhaps
against his old team mate Nico who certainly asked for all he got!!

But I don't believe he was taught by anyone.... quiet and nice when out of the car, nasty when in it!
Just what we needed, another Schumacher!!
I know why the stewards were very lenient, because it was Monza, but that absolutely shouldn't have
come into their thinking.

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Message par Gary le Jeu Sep 12, 2019 3:09 am

00521 a écrit:
Gary a écrit:Hard to remember as such flag has been in use in F1 only 2 races now...

Not saying LeClerk didn't do shitty, but like he himself says, he was taught by the best: Verstappen and Hamilton.  Very Happy



2 Races?   Gee. /;-0 ??? ... hahaha. OMG. I'm friggin' gettin' ancient.

Gary, I was thinking of the old Black & White 'Warning Flag', Half Black Half White. Diagonal split. Somehow confused them.

So, is that old flag abolished now?

Anyway, I agree... he was taught by the best: Schumi & Vettel (Red Bull's Twin-Diffuser days).   Smile
Vettel's a different man, now, but the petty Italian press and new Ferrari management has him doubting himself...

Nowadays, @ Ferrari, you're only as good as your last race...  that's really a shame.

Frankly, I think Kimi got the royal shaft, now Vettel is too. Just my 2 cents.


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I think the old flag is still there also.

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Message par 00521 le Jeu Sep 12, 2019 7:27 pm

LeClerc was not handed a penalty for 3 serious infringements.

2 directions under braking,
Leaving the track and gaining unfair advantage,
Squeezing


That is a very bad lesson for the entire grid.

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